And there we go! We are now done with Book 6! *sets off sparklers* One day I will get up a recap for both Book 5 and Book 6, because I never did that for Book 5. ANYWAY. Have a good day, lovelies!
I told you we would have an issue in a later post because Hector doesn’t have a helmet… Oh well. Astyanax is supposed to be crying because Hector has a scary helmet on and doesn’t recognize his dad and that’s why Hector and Andromache start laughing so… The humour works better in the original. Helmets are just difficult to draw and then Hector wouldn’t have such fabulous hair.
As for Andromache’s servant lady, what’s up with her? Why is she glaring all the time? At first I wasn’t quite sure, but then I was thinking about it and the servant ladies who took care of rich people’s children were really the ones raising them and acting as the child’s parents, and here these two keep passing the child around and laughing at it’s terror and… well. I’d be upset to and feel a bit possessive of the kid.
She’s probably glaring and rolling her eyes and thinking, “Rich people, ugh.” I wish she had a name. It is moments like these when I miss teaching, because my students would just make up names for all of the unnamed characters we came across. *is reminiscent*
ANYWAY. Zeus showed up way angrier than I had intended *shrugs* I’m sure there’s a reason for it.
Fate is creepy and wonderful and I love her.
I’m going to try and continue posting twice a week *fingers crossed* I’ll just make the segments shorter if I need to. If it takes me longer to make my way through Book 7, so be it. OHMYPENGUINS. WE’RE GOING TO START BOOK 7 SOON! Ahahahahahaha…hem. *clears throat awkwardly*
Have a good rest of your day, lovelies!
Hector is definitely better (in my opinion) than many of the other men in The Iliad, but damn, he’s kind of a donkey’s derriere here. I think this conversation really highlights how much men did not understand what women went through. Hector lists all of the terrible things that he believes are absolutely 100% going to happen to his wife and his reaction is all about his pain and how terrible this is for him and how glad he is he will DIE before he has to see it happen. Um… But what about Andromache? She’s the one who will actually have to suffer through all of these things? It’s so easy for the warriors to go around talking about pillaging and stealing ladies and ladies being stolen, but they have no real concept about what it would be like to be pillaged or stolen.
Anyway. That’s my feminist moment of the day.
Today’s was a shorter post and I’m thinking about possibly moving to shorter posts instead of only posting one day a week? I haven’t quite decided yet. I’ll keep you posted. Have a lovely day!
It really should not be a surprise that the women of the house are just staring at Hector considering, remember, how he’s covered in blood and guts, holding a sixteen foot spear and wearing a golden helmet.
Also, Andromache is often portrayed as the sad wife who doesn’t want her husband to fulfill his duty to his troops, as selfish, as a “seductress” trying to thwart the hero, etc., etc., and so forth. However, the more I think about this scene the more I think that’s not really what’s going on here. She asks Hector to stay inside the walls with a retinue of men BECAUSE this is the weakest part of the city, there is a prophecy about how this side of the city is dangerous (or something? my translation is unclear?) AND it is the only part of the city with scaleable walls and Ajax, Idomeneus, AND Diomedes keep making attacks at this WEAKEST PART OF THE CITY. Sure, Hector is the next in line to the kingdom, but it was normal, from what I remember, for kings in Asia Minor to personally fight for their cities. I don’t think Andromache is asking Hector to stop being a dutiful soldier, I think she’s asking him to be a SMARTER one. I think she is an intelligent woman who has thought this through and, yeah, sure, she doesn’t want her husband to die. But she also doesn’t want her city to be overrun by Greeks.
ANYWAY. Those are my two cents. Or five cents. Whatever. There’s some cents of mine, take it or leave it or share thoughts of your own.
In addition: Andromache going on about how Hector is her father/mother/brother/husband reminds me of Ruth and Naomi, I’m not sure why.
AND I have been thinking and I might have to go down to posting only once a week? I’ve just been working 40+ hours a week and trying to write more, stay up with my reading, keep up relationships with friends, and also trying to post 2-3 times a week and it’s not working. I keep missing days/weeks and I’d rather be consistent less often than inconsistent more often, if that makes sense? I also want this to be something fun I do, and I never want it to become some sort of chore I dread, because that defeats the purpose of this. Anyway. I’ll let you know what I decide about that by the end of the month (WHICH is RIDICULOUSLY soon WHERE THE HECK did May go?)
In the book Hittite Myths as translated by Harry A. Hoffner, Jr. (second edition) there is a section on Hurrian Myths. In tablet one of “The Song of Ullikummi” it says:
“When Kumarbi [had formed] a clever plan [in his mind], he promptly arose from his chair. In his hand he took a staff; [on his feet] like winged [shoes] he put the winds” (4.Ai 11-15).
And later in tablet 3:
“When Tasmisu heard Tessub’s words, he quickly arose, [took] a staff in hand, put the winds on his feet – like winged shoes, and went up on the hightowers” (48.Aii 1-2).
Kumarbi is trying to dethrone Tessub (sometimes translated as Teshub), who is currently king of the gods. Tasmisu is Tessub’s vizier (he and Tessub are both “sons,” of a sort, of Kumarbi). Actually, the Anu, Kumarbi, Tessub storyline has a lot of parallels to the Kronos, Ouranos, Zeus story… Ahem. Anyway. That would be for a different day. We’re going to set aside Kumarbi for right now and look at the vizier, Tasmisu.
Kumarbi is on the left, Tessub on the right
Tasmisu is acting as a messenger. He grabs his staff and puts the wind on his feet, or, basically, his winged shoes. Who else has a staff and winged shoes? Specifically, in the Hellenic world? But of course! Hermes! Tasmisu also, later on in the story, leads Tessub to visit Allani, “the lady” who ruled the underworld (known as Lelwani to the Hittites, and possibly connected to the Sumerian Ereshkigal ). Hermes is also a cthonic deity who is able to go freely from the underworld and back and acts as a psychopomp, leading people safely to the underworld.
It makes me wonder if all of these stories of gods putting winged shoes on their feet and wandering around to the underworld eventually morphed into the Hellenic Hermes? There seems to be some sort of kinship there.
Tasmisu on the left, Hermes on the right
Ah, my silly little Greek and Roman poets. They amuse me.
Quintus of Smyrna is known for trying to bridge the gap between Homer and Virgil, but most people agree that he’s not as good and someone did say that he was the “worst poet of antiquity” (Ernst Günther Schmidt 1999, 141). I actually really enjoy him. I mean, he is derivative of Homer, but since that was his goal I feel like that’s okay? I don’t know. I would be willing to comic it up one day.
ANYWAY. So the other day there was that comic about Hector Within the City Walls and Laodike shows up in the background and Hector goes on this rant about how he wishes Paris would be swallowed up by the earth. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Laodike herself is later swallowed up by the very earth. I think that’s why she’s here in this scene.
Also, Acamas, her husband (according to some), was a guest-friend of Odysseus and Menelaus (again, according to some). There’s just so many connections! I think that’s one thing that’s fun about Homer, because he just references these people off-handedly, but there’s so much story there underneath.
Also, I find it so interesting that Theseus’ grandmother is chilling as Helen’s slave-woman. Why is she even there? Why is Acamas, the son of Theseus, there? Could this have any connection to the rumours that Helen of Troy was married to Theseus for some time?
ANYWAYS. Here is your random post. I am so excited I could get it done for you *waves pompoms* I hope you enjoyed it! Have a wonderful day, lovelies! *bows*
I know this is a lot of just Helen and Hector talking. I wish it was more fun -_- BUT IT EXISTS. Oh. My. Goodness. I almost had this all ready yesterday afternoon and then there was a problem with one of the pictures and then I fell asleep and then I had to work AND THEN IT WAS TOO LATE. *swoons*
HOWEVER. It is here for you now. The lady next to Helen is Aethra, who will show up later, hopefully, if I can get the Laodike post put together. It is hard to write comics when you are working 40+ hours a week and also trying to maintain friendships and also eating and sleeping and taking care of your introverted self. WHO KNEW.
Okay. I’m done capslocking it up. I actually did have some commentary I wanted to make.
Homer tells us that Paris built his house between Hector and Priam. I feel like this is Paris trying to show dominance over Hector. Hector is the top son, in line to take over the throne. I feel like Paris, the unaccounted for, miraculously found because saved by shepherd, upstart, wants to take over and rule Troy after Priam dies. I don’t know for sure, but I feel like maybe that is happening? Oh, Paris. He plays himself off as a silly pretty boy, but maybe there’s a devious mind at work here?
So frustrating, the way Helen is always calling herself a lady-dog and blaming herself for everything and talking down about herself. So. Frustrating. I want more from Helen and it’s just not something I’m going to get from Homer. (Which is why, I know I talk about these all the time, but really, this is why I love Helen of Sparta and By Helen’s Hand, because it gives me a Helen that does not continually call herself a lady-dog and etc.)
ANYWAY. I hope you enjoyed grumpy little Hector. Have a lovely day!
Laodike doesn’t really seem to be there for any reason. She doesn’t say anything. No one talks to her. She’s just standing there looking pretty. I think there’s a reason she’s standing there, because I did background research on her, but I’m planning on doing a post about her, so you’ll have to wait for that, mwahaha…
I don’t really have much to say beyond that, except yes, I know this post is a week late. April was a bit of a mess and I have a feeling May is going to be a bit of a kerfluffle of a month. I have left the Building Supplies Store and have started a job at a library working at the circulation desk. Future retail comics may star said library, at which point I will create a fake name for it.
In the meantime, enjoy your day my lovelies! Hopefully I’ll have Part 3.2 ready by Wednesday and a Laodike post ready on Friday *fingers crossed*
So, supposedly there’s this No Man’s Land between the armies, but I still can’t quite believe this scene and find it comical that these two guys are just Time Out having storytime as the battle rages on around them. What soldiers do that? I mean, I know why it’s happening story-wise, but looking at it purely from a non-literary point of view it’s ridiculous. I love it.
Some advice: don’t mess with Dionysos. Just don’t. There are lots of different version of what happened to Lycurgus of Thrace (not to be confused with the other non-Thracian Lycurgus), but I went with panthers killing him… although, considering how horribly my cats turn out I DO NOT KNOW WHY. Past Naomi, what were you thinking?
I was excited to see Thetis again, though.
The story of the Lady and the Failed Seduction is fairly common, and I feel like it stems from the fact that men understood that was one of the only ways women could have power over them, and it terrified them. I think it’s partly because of these stories that we still have a lot of men who are like, “Women aren’t raped, what, they’re just lying. Men are the true victims. The victims of lying horrible lady dogs.” -_- Ugh. Sorry. Is my feminism showing? How rude of me.
I highlighted the moment with the king handing over the tablet because writing was seen as this terribly dangerous magic for a long time.
I included two pissed off ladies (Glaucus’ mother and grandmother) because he doesn’t tell us their names and everything is focused on the male, on the sons, on the fathers – but dude. You cannot have babies without ladies. I wish we had more on them, but so often the women are erased or slapped on with the vague title of “Wife of…” UGH. Super not helpful for writing comics, ancient dudes. What were you thinking?
ANYWAY. Glaucus is a sassy pants and we will see him again next time. Have fun, my lovelies, and have a great day.
Helenus is not what I was imagining when I went to create his character, HOWEVER, I kind of love him? He was supposed to be much younger and cuter, but I’m okay with what happened.
Also, as a question, why does Priam have so many prophetic children? Is it because of Troy’s association with Apollo? It makes me wonder.
Also, I am realizing that not have Hector have a helmet is actually going to create some major issues with the scene with Andromache and his son Astyanax…. -_- I honestly am not sure how I’m going to finagle my way around him NOT having a helmet. But helmet’s are just so hard, guys. UGH. I guess we’ll find out.
ANYWAY. Thank you all for you patience. It’s been crazy over here in Naomi-Land. It might get better next month? Might get worse? Also I may have too many friends but I feel like I can’t really complain about that? Also I might need a time-turner?